Talk:Tournament/@comment-24172591-20140812045025

Discussion about the rank 17 video:

The video psoted for 13 doesn't show you show to "properly" run rank 13, either. Daeus was using a tri-colour deck and sandbagged several rounds just to charge his nukes. It exists merely to show what rank 13 entails (also, I'm pretty sure that's the "old" rank 13, which is missing a few fodders, so it's not even up-to-date!).

Likewise, my rank 17 video can be used for illustrative purposes to show what rank 17 entails in terms of fodder, the boss battle, their HP, etc. Also, I don't see what makes running that deck unfeasible. The deck cost? Fine, switch out an Isabeli for another hard hitter. You'll still 8-turn rank 17, which is what you need for a top 3 finish. The other way to 8-turn it is to use a Mermaid-based water deck, which in its own way is "unfeasible" since they were available for en extremely limited time and only a relatively small number of players have 2 or more of them (the number of copies needed to 8-turn rank 17).

There are several ways to build 7- and 8-turnable decks for rank 17, several of them quite "feasible". Nothing in my red rank 17 7-turn deck is "unfeasible". Not enough DC? Level up. Don't have the spirits? Isabeli is a permanent invoke, so was Michaela (but she's been removed and re-added before). Coffy is a permanent spirit (and her S-form was even re-added to the pool for a few days for some bizarre reason). Asmodeus will most likely be a recurring superboss. Just because it takes a lot of time and effort to get a deck like that, it doesn't mean it's "unfeasible".

Sure, the standard Mel & Mana, Mel & Mana, Sakuya, Sakuya, Insert Hard Hitting Blue Spirit With a 6-7 TCC Nuke Here team is much less DC costly, but, again, only a few players even have Mel & Mana to begin with. You can probably pull off a consistent 8-turner (or even 7-turner) using a team based on 2 Theodores with all Hidden Powers unlocked, too, but that'll also require a whole lot of time and effort (to unlock all of the Hidden Powers), thus it's basically just as "unfeasible" as my red 7-turner.