Talk:Jennifer Abbott and the Ruins of Sand/@comment-25429661-20141107135200/@comment-1465604-20141107165839

1) New SS spirit forms for old spirits in no way hurt players who don't have them unless it's Mineva because she's OP for tournaments. So you don't get them, tough.

2) They're making old spirits relevant again while also rewarding faithful players. My Nina has literally never ever been use. She's now more relevant (though still irrelevant for me since I have kneelbefore!Riverta). The SS forms for limited invoke spirits we've gotten insofar have all been for spirits that were pretty blah with the influx of new invokes (permanent or not) we've gotten in the past few months, except for SS Popol (who basically just got a stat upgrade since we don't really need pan-healers yet) and SS Fu-fey (who just got a stat upgrade and -1 TCC). The rest were for spirits who'd since become pretty irrelevant, Mineva aside (her nerfed stats and Answer Skill made her far inferior to Bahamut, but her DC wasn't insane).

3) New players get a chance at new invokes. Also, new players will always have missed out on certain great spirits which will never return. It's what happens when you're a new player. Unless they re-run every single spirit ever, they will always miss out on old spirits. What chaps my ass is that they gave us a spirit which made it literally impossible for anyone to ever unlock every single spirits index entry in the game (not that I try to). In Japan, Till Knorg was a free spirit given as a gift during certain events if you bought crystal packs (a maximum of 1 copy per account). In our version, you get him as a new player. Only they added him several months into the game's life cycles, which means that you either couldn't get him or created a new account to get him and missed out on all of the spirits that can before him.

4) Who cares if you can't get spirits that are brought back for storyline purposes? Are you desperate to obtain any spirit that ever appears as part of a storyline in-game? Do you invoke every single event so you can collect all of the spirits that have a bit part in the event storylines? Also, the Linka, Wolff, Shirley and Nicolas that appeared as part of the Chroma Magna Summer Seaside event were obtainable since it was their Summer Versions! Luka did not appear in the Renewed Chocolate Forest storyline (also, that event didn't even have a storyline!). The original Chocolate Forest event likewise did not have a storyline of any kind and Luka, therefore, has played absolutely no part in any storyline ever.