Talk:Events/@comment-25298888-20151015165856/@comment-60.48.83.214-20151015182008

You don't really *need* to be in R17 to get Top 500 (most important, for the reward spirit since higher rewards like Ethers are available from other sources) but it certainly does help a lot point-wise.

I was stuck in R15 last year because my deck couldn't make it past R16. I could still get Top 500, but I had to spend more crystals and couldn't get much of a crystal profit from Wiz Cups. Also had to waste MP sandbagging, purposely getting last place in R16 so that I'd lose the most BP and drop back to R15 for longer. What a nightmare it was...

That was when the player base was bigger. I believe with the current active population low, some players were getting Top 500 with ~4k points in the last Wiz Cup?