Talk:Tournament/@comment-25187585-20140809101351/@comment-103.244.188.77-20140809151833

Ummm no, 9 turns is the norm now, because of Cittra, Maria, Oliver etc. being really good for 16.

10 turns is easily booted out of top 3. You need to 9-turn to do well, even then, you might get 4th or 5th sometimes if facing several 9-turn runs.